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Post by BleBob on Sept 13, 2013 13:07:28 GMT -5
Starting a thread to help document information on B&LE Locomotive Paint, schemes, unique paint jobs, etc.
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Post by BleBob on Sept 13, 2013 13:13:21 GMT -5
Thanks to B&LE historians URR566 and Mitch the following information can be shared. First B&LE diesel to wear the simplified paint scheme is believed to be the 822. www.rr-fallenflags.org/ble/ble822gea.jpg
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Post by URR566 on Sept 21, 2013 10:06:56 GMT -5
I haven’t ever seen anybody mention this before so I figured that I would bring it up. Has anyone ever noticed the differently shaped butter knife found on some hood units? In particular, what SD9’s 821, 823-825, and RSD15’s 881-886 wore verses what the SD7’s, SD18’s, and Baldwins wore. The end of the stripes on the SD7’s and Baldwins were just like what the F7’s wore, while the ends of the SD9’s and the Alcos looked more like a half circle than a butter knife. Take a look at the shape of the stripe on SD7 451, which is just like what the F7’s wore, only smaller: www.rr-fallenflags.org/ble/ble451geb.jpg Now take a look at the end of the stripe on RSD15 883, it looks more like a “half circle” than a butter knife to me. All 6 Alcos, SD9’s 821, 823-825, SW8 285, and Alco S4 291 had the end of their stripes shaped this way: www.sd45.com/ble/pages/ble883.htm At first, I figured that maybe the Greenville shops couldn’t match the stripes that EMD applied to the SD7’s/18’s, but then I looked at the Baldwin DRS 6-6-15’s and AS616’s, and their stripes matched the SD7‘s. All of the BLW engines were delivered in black, the Bessemer repainted them at Greenville: www.rr-fallenflags.org/ble/ble404gec.jpg Also, SD7 452 appears to have been repainted by the B&LE, with butter knife but no wings on the nose: www.rr-fallenflags.org/ble/ble451geb.jpg This leads me to believe that this was a timesaving technique applied on later painted units to get them out on the road faster.
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Post by URR566 on Oct 12, 2013 5:35:33 GMT -5
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Post by BleBob on Oct 13, 2013 10:59:47 GMT -5
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Post by URR566 on Oct 13, 2013 19:39:41 GMT -5
I forgot about the 407, it was one of four known Bessemer locomotives to ever wear black numbers and wings. The others are 404, 406, and 409.
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Post by URR566 on Oct 13, 2013 19:43:27 GMT -5
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Post by BleBob on Oct 14, 2013 12:55:54 GMT -5
I wonder how it got the Black letters. Maybe 407 was the first unit to get a Greenville dip in the Butter Knife Paint.
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Post by BleBob on Oct 14, 2013 12:58:31 GMT -5
Great shot of the 407 by the way. Working Calvin?
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Post by URR566 on Oct 14, 2013 18:22:43 GMT -5
Yep, Butler 3/28/1970.
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Post by BleBob on Oct 14, 2013 19:31:59 GMT -5
Wow,
Surprised that paint lasted into 1970.
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nkp715
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Post by nkp715 on Oct 18, 2013 16:38:27 GMT -5
I continue to be amazed by the attention to detail that folks on this site call out - - for example, UR566's post on the black vs. orange paint on the raised walkway. May not have taken note of it, but this photo taken yesterday (10/17/13) sure makes it obvious. Attachments:
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Post by BleBob on Oct 18, 2013 19:47:15 GMT -5
Nice catch,
caught that trio today returning from AK with a short MT scrap train
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Post by URR566 on Oct 19, 2013 0:20:07 GMT -5
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Post by BleBob on Oct 19, 2013 7:37:07 GMT -5
modelers should pay attention as well when we drive ourselves nuts by trying to get everything perfect. note on that last pic of 828 the last 8 is slightly higher then the 2.
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